Dr. Cal Newport

Here's in-office days.

But – For everybody.

For everybody.

Okay.

Okay.

or have a few of these schedules, but like groups of people who work together have the same schedule, but then make the rule at home days, no meetings, no email.

Like that's the way to really get the full benefit out of hybrid work.

When we're in the office,

We have meetings and we can talk about work and we're at home, we're just doing work and we can do it without distraction and we can just stay deep and really churn through things.

I think it would really make a big difference on the overload issue.

I think it would be much more sustainable.

Remote work, so I did a lot of coverage of remote work as this was first emerging, the early pandemic.

There I became convinced, I was doing this twice a month column for the New Yorker back then that was just looking at the pandemic transforming work.

And I came away with the idea that remote work can be fantastic, but it's difficult.

And it can't just be do the job you were doing in person, but just do it at home.

And we have Zoom and we'll figure it out.

Like if you're going to be fully remote, we have to rethink what work means for that.

And there's a lot of differences it needs to have.

It needs to be way more structured.

It probably needs to be you're working on less things.