Dr. Catherine DeVries

And I would say that all these things change when it's your family member or your child and you want the best care. And you realize that there is something to be learned from a visiting team that will improve the quality of care for everyone that does change people's minds.

You know, funny you should mention that because one of my colleagues here in Utah, we were having dinner just two nights ago and he is just finishing his master's in public health. He's a trauma surgeon. And he said, well, how about we do another edition of this? He's getting his master's at the London School of Public Health and so he wants to carry this forward.

You know, funny you should mention that because one of my colleagues here in Utah, we were having dinner just two nights ago and he is just finishing his master's in public health. He's a trauma surgeon. And he said, well, how about we do another edition of this? He's getting his master's at the London School of Public Health and so he wants to carry this forward.

You know, funny you should mention that because one of my colleagues here in Utah, we were having dinner just two nights ago and he is just finishing his master's in public health. He's a trauma surgeon. And he said, well, how about we do another edition of this? He's getting his master's at the London School of Public Health and so he wants to carry this forward.

I think we've learned a lot with, yeah, with the COVID epidemic it focused a lot of people on what surgery and the surgical environment has to offer. both in terms of respiratory health, the systems for ventilation, a lot of hospitals and recovery rooms and ICUs were taken over. People saw the insides and the guts of what's in a hospital and what hospitals have to offer.

I think we've learned a lot with, yeah, with the COVID epidemic it focused a lot of people on what surgery and the surgical environment has to offer. both in terms of respiratory health, the systems for ventilation, a lot of hospitals and recovery rooms and ICUs were taken over. People saw the insides and the guts of what's in a hospital and what hospitals have to offer.

I think we've learned a lot with, yeah, with the COVID epidemic it focused a lot of people on what surgery and the surgical environment has to offer. both in terms of respiratory health, the systems for ventilation, a lot of hospitals and recovery rooms and ICUs were taken over. People saw the insides and the guts of what's in a hospital and what hospitals have to offer.

for public health in a pandemic. We also ran out of masks in many places and people took for granted that masks weren't necessary for hospitals, but possibly not anywhere else. And then all of a sudden there was a shortage of masks.

for public health in a pandemic. We also ran out of masks in many places and people took for granted that masks weren't necessary for hospitals, but possibly not anywhere else. And then all of a sudden there was a shortage of masks.

for public health in a pandemic. We also ran out of masks in many places and people took for granted that masks weren't necessary for hospitals, but possibly not anywhere else. And then all of a sudden there was a shortage of masks.

And now I think much of the public and certainly most of the medical community is more aware of the integration of surgical services, including ICUs, recovery rooms, anesthesia, and all of the principles that are needed to have safe surgery with good outcomes are also needed for certain pandemics.

And now I think much of the public and certainly most of the medical community is more aware of the integration of surgical services, including ICUs, recovery rooms, anesthesia, and all of the principles that are needed to have safe surgery with good outcomes are also needed for certain pandemics.

And now I think much of the public and certainly most of the medical community is more aware of the integration of surgical services, including ICUs, recovery rooms, anesthesia, and all of the principles that are needed to have safe surgery with good outcomes are also needed for certain pandemics.

And I think this is more incentive for people to understand how we integrate and that we're not two completely separate, diametrically opposed areas of healthcare.

And I think this is more incentive for people to understand how we integrate and that we're not two completely separate, diametrically opposed areas of healthcare.

And I think this is more incentive for people to understand how we integrate and that we're not two completely separate, diametrically opposed areas of healthcare.

Yeah, well, I just got back from Zimbabwe. So I was there for the COSEXA meeting. COSEXA is the College of Surgeons of East, Central, and Southern Africa. Getting back to pediatric urology, In many other countries, in fact, most of Sub-Saharan Africa, pediatric urology is done mostly by pediatric surgeons, mostly by urologists. And so the training is, there's a gap in training, I would say.

Yeah, well, I just got back from Zimbabwe. So I was there for the COSEXA meeting. COSEXA is the College of Surgeons of East, Central, and Southern Africa. Getting back to pediatric urology, In many other countries, in fact, most of Sub-Saharan Africa, pediatric urology is done mostly by pediatric surgeons, mostly by urologists. And so the training is, there's a gap in training, I would say.

Yeah, well, I just got back from Zimbabwe. So I was there for the COSEXA meeting. COSEXA is the College of Surgeons of East, Central, and Southern Africa. Getting back to pediatric urology, In many other countries, in fact, most of Sub-Saharan Africa, pediatric urology is done mostly by pediatric surgeons, mostly by urologists. And so the training is, there's a gap in training, I would say.

The pediatric surgeons don't have as much experience with scopes as we do in urology. but they have a lot of experience with newborns and newborn physiology and managing sick babies, especially sick babies in their low-resource countries. Urologists, on the other hand, have experience with stones, and as it turns out, stones are getting much more prevalent in kids than they ever were.