Ep. 212 Expanding Her Scope with SWIU: Dr. Catherine deVries on Navigating Challenges for Sustainable Global Impact
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The team approach is a good idea, but actually when you are the one responsible for your outcomes from the beginning to the end, it puts a whole new light on patient care. And I think that's valuable. It also helps you to become a more independent surgeon because you're able to work and set up a case so that you can do that with a tech and pretty much any tech anywhere. And you can travel around the world and surgery has its own language, but you can work with people who don't speak your language because if you know how to set up a procedure and how to work with people who have some experience you can work with anybody pretty much anywhere and I do think that that is a value that many people who go into academics don't experience especially if they go directly from their training.
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I'm your host again today, Dr. Suzette Sutherland, and I'm so very excited to host this very special episode. It's part of a Society of Women in Urology legacy series where we're highlighting women who've really been true pioneers and trailblazers in the area of urology. So I'm super excited to be the one to host Dr. Catherine DeVries, who's here with me today. Thanks, Catherine, for being here. Oh, thank you, Suzette. Very good to be with you. Let me tell you a little bit about Dr. DeVries. She has spent the bulk of her academic career as professor of urology at the University of Utah, where she was the founding director of the Center for Global Surgery. That's really her passion is global health.
And she really is one of the foremost experts in global surgery and thought of in that role by many, many prominent people in many countries around the globe. Her main interest is developing sustainable global surgery. And that's what she's been working on all of these years. Many people have heard about this organization called International Volunteers in Urology, and she is the founding member of that. Many people have heard about this organization called International Volunteers in Urology, or commonly known as IVU Med. And Catherine DeVries is the founder of this organization, which was started in 1994. And many people who've had some experience with it know it's really blossomed into this wonderful organization that has programs in over 20 countries around the world. Dr. DeVries also has quite the academic pedigree, I would say. Her undergraduate was done at Harvard.
She had graduate school, master's in pathology at Duke, then her MD degree and urology residency at Stanford, then went on for a Peds Urology Fellowship at UC San Diego, and even executive leadership in academic medicine program at Drexel University. So she really has quite the pedigree and has done wonderful things in the area of global surgery, as well as in pediatric urology. And again, a trailblazer for many other women. I'd like to just get started if we can and just dive in to what your experience was like as a woman starting in urology. Because certainly, you know, when you were going through the training, there weren't many people at all that are women in urology today. you know, about 10% of the urological workforce is women.
And about 25% of our trainees right now are women, which is wonderful. It means one fourth of people being trained in urology. So it's really growing. But, you know, when you were going through this process, You were probably the only one. Is that correct?
Well, I was the only one during my training. There had been one previous. That would be Linda Shortliffe. And Linda had trained also at Stanford, and she remained on the faculty. But amazingly, I never met her. During the time that I was training, because she was at the VA, and then she was off doing her fellowship in pediatric urology, and by the time she came back, I had finished.
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