Dr. Catherine DeVries

I think it was the only one year fellowship at the time, but that was fine with me because I was already board certified. I had already been working on my own. In fact, back in that time, they could bill for me, you know, because I could run my own clinic and I was already licensed in the state of California. So as a fellow, In fact, I think I did get a faculty appointment.

Now I think all that's changed. But at the time, it was really great to see that not only had I not been doing it badly before, but I learned some new tricks, as one always does. And I felt a lot more confident having spent that time. The other thing is that as pediatric urology was defining itself as a specialty, in order to more or less join the club, you had to have done a fellowship.

Now I think all that's changed. But at the time, it was really great to see that not only had I not been doing it badly before, but I learned some new tricks, as one always does. And I felt a lot more confident having spent that time. The other thing is that as pediatric urology was defining itself as a specialty, in order to more or less join the club, you had to have done a fellowship.

Now I think all that's changed. But at the time, it was really great to see that not only had I not been doing it badly before, but I learned some new tricks, as one always does. And I felt a lot more confident having spent that time. The other thing is that as pediatric urology was defining itself as a specialty, in order to more or less join the club, you had to have done a fellowship.

Everybody had to do a fellowship. And if you didn't, you were one of those general urologists who liked doing pediatric urology, but you weren't, you couldn't really call yourself a pediatric urologist in that way. It was kind of an exclusive club.

Everybody had to do a fellowship. And if you didn't, you were one of those general urologists who liked doing pediatric urology, but you weren't, you couldn't really call yourself a pediatric urologist in that way. It was kind of an exclusive club.

Everybody had to do a fellowship. And if you didn't, you were one of those general urologists who liked doing pediatric urology, but you weren't, you couldn't really call yourself a pediatric urologist in that way. It was kind of an exclusive club.

And I really do feel that it's a good thing to have a broad experience, to have experience working on one's own, to get out of academics, even if we're coming back, to be the one responsible. You know, the team approach is a good idea, but actually when you are the one responsible for your outcomes from the beginning to the end, it puts a whole new light on patient care.

And I really do feel that it's a good thing to have a broad experience, to have experience working on one's own, to get out of academics, even if we're coming back, to be the one responsible. You know, the team approach is a good idea, but actually when you are the one responsible for your outcomes from the beginning to the end, it puts a whole new light on patient care.

And I really do feel that it's a good thing to have a broad experience, to have experience working on one's own, to get out of academics, even if we're coming back, to be the one responsible. You know, the team approach is a good idea, but actually when you are the one responsible for your outcomes from the beginning to the end, it puts a whole new light on patient care.

And I think that's valuable. And it also helps you to become a more independent surgeon because you're able to work and set up a case so that you can do that with a tech and pretty much any tech anywhere.

And I think that's valuable. And it also helps you to become a more independent surgeon because you're able to work and set up a case so that you can do that with a tech and pretty much any tech anywhere.

And I think that's valuable. And it also helps you to become a more independent surgeon because you're able to work and set up a case so that you can do that with a tech and pretty much any tech anywhere.

and you can travel around the world and surgery has its own language but you can work with people who don't speak your language because if you know how to set up a procedure and how to work with people who have some experience, you can work with anybody pretty much anywhere.

and you can travel around the world and surgery has its own language but you can work with people who don't speak your language because if you know how to set up a procedure and how to work with people who have some experience, you can work with anybody pretty much anywhere.

and you can travel around the world and surgery has its own language but you can work with people who don't speak your language because if you know how to set up a procedure and how to work with people who have some experience, you can work with anybody pretty much anywhere.

And I do think that that is a value that many people who go into academics don't experience, especially if they go directly from their training.

And I do think that that is a value that many people who go into academics don't experience, especially if they go directly from their training.

And I do think that that is a value that many people who go into academics don't experience, especially if they go directly from their training.

Yeah, so I went to Augusta. Actually, this is a bit of my personality situation. There were some opportunities where I could have gone to be somebody's junior partner. I did want to set up my own program, and Augusta, they needed a pediatric urologist there. So at that time, then I was also the only female urologist on the faculty.