Dr. Chris van Tulleken

You've got really a huge amount of global grain being traded by a tiny handful of companies. This very small number of crops traded by a very small number of companies.

You've got really a huge amount of global grain being traded by a tiny handful of companies. This very small number of crops traded by a very small number of companies.

So, and this is something, this comes up a lot in the discussion is going, well, a lot of vegan food is ultra processed. Do you want to ban that too? And it's like, whoa, no one, no one's saying we're going to ban all ultra processed food. No one's saying it's all... That's another really important thing. It's not all equally bad, but it is all... almost without exception, bad.

So, and this is something, this comes up a lot in the discussion is going, well, a lot of vegan food is ultra processed. Do you want to ban that too? And it's like, whoa, no one, no one's saying we're going to ban all ultra processed food. No one's saying it's all... That's another really important thing. It's not all equally bad, but it is all... almost without exception, bad.

So, and this is something, this comes up a lot in the discussion is going, well, a lot of vegan food is ultra processed. Do you want to ban that too? And it's like, whoa, no one, no one's saying we're going to ban all ultra processed food. No one's saying it's all... That's another really important thing. It's not all equally bad, but it is all... almost without exception, bad.

And the vegan stuff is often made by the same companies that are producing enormous quantities of meat, often in quite inhumane, unethical, unsustainable ways. Like Tyson has just bought huge amounts of these alternative meat company stocks and shares. Yeah.

And the vegan stuff is often made by the same companies that are producing enormous quantities of meat, often in quite inhumane, unethical, unsustainable ways. Like Tyson has just bought huge amounts of these alternative meat company stocks and shares. Yeah.

And the vegan stuff is often made by the same companies that are producing enormous quantities of meat, often in quite inhumane, unethical, unsustainable ways. Like Tyson has just bought huge amounts of these alternative meat company stocks and shares. Yeah.

If you're kind of really concerned about the ethics and you want to eat a good vegan diet, eating an ultra processed food that's made by Cargill or Tyson, even if it's vegan, it will probably be made, can only exist because it's made from the byproducts of the animal feed industry. So it's not, I feel those arguments don't have heft. There's a way of eating ethically and sustainably.

If you're kind of really concerned about the ethics and you want to eat a good vegan diet, eating an ultra processed food that's made by Cargill or Tyson, even if it's vegan, it will probably be made, can only exist because it's made from the byproducts of the animal feed industry. So it's not, I feel those arguments don't have heft. There's a way of eating ethically and sustainably.

If you're kind of really concerned about the ethics and you want to eat a good vegan diet, eating an ultra processed food that's made by Cargill or Tyson, even if it's vegan, it will probably be made, can only exist because it's made from the byproducts of the animal feed industry. So it's not, I feel those arguments don't have heft. There's a way of eating ethically and sustainably.

If you want to be vegan, if you want to eat meat, none of it requires nutrition. ultra-processed food. Amazing. Wow.

If you want to be vegan, if you want to eat meat, none of it requires nutrition. ultra-processed food. Amazing. Wow.

If you want to be vegan, if you want to eat meat, none of it requires nutrition. ultra-processed food. Amazing. Wow.

Yeah. If you want a strong military and a good football team, you've got to fix the food system. You know, it doesn't matter where you're, but if you care about social justice, you've got to fix it. It all points that everyone's on the same team here. We all live on the same planet. It's such a joy speaking to you, Mark. I feel so full of energy after we communicate on email or anything.

Yeah. If you want a strong military and a good football team, you've got to fix the food system. You know, it doesn't matter where you're, but if you care about social justice, you've got to fix it. It all points that everyone's on the same team here. We all live on the same planet. It's such a joy speaking to you, Mark. I feel so full of energy after we communicate on email or anything.

Yeah. If you want a strong military and a good football team, you've got to fix the food system. You know, it doesn't matter where you're, but if you care about social justice, you've got to fix it. It all points that everyone's on the same team here. We all live on the same planet. It's such a joy speaking to you, Mark. I feel so full of energy after we communicate on email or anything.

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Instagram at Dr. Chris, Dr. D-O-C-T-O-R, like spelled out Chris VT, I guess. Or I'm on Twitter, this O-X on the same handle, at Dr. Chris VT. Okay, great. We'll put it on the show notes.