Dr. Christopher Gardner

And that's why the health community is trying to figure out how to react to this. So part of this is, I'll just take an example, several examples of things that fall into the line of these ultra-processed foods. There's actually quite a few whole wheat breads, yogurts, salad dressings, and things like tomato sauces.

So picture a very inexpensive quick meal for a family where the parents have three jobs. They're trying to make ends meet. Sure, it would be great if they could be home growing their garden and scratch cooking all day, but they can't. So they come home, they cook some pasta, they heat up some red tomato sauce, and they pour it on top.

So picture a very inexpensive quick meal for a family where the parents have three jobs. They're trying to make ends meet. Sure, it would be great if they could be home growing their garden and scratch cooking all day, but they can't. So they come home, they cook some pasta, they heat up some red tomato sauce, and they pour it on top.

So picture a very inexpensive quick meal for a family where the parents have three jobs. They're trying to make ends meet. Sure, it would be great if they could be home growing their garden and scratch cooking all day, but they can't. So they come home, they cook some pasta, they heat up some red tomato sauce, and they pour it on top.

More nutritious than, let's say, a fast food something or other. So if you take that tomato sauce away and they whip together a little salad, and the kids don't want to eat the raw vegetables that are just plain. They want some salad dressing on it. You picked up some salad dressing. And for breakfast, they were going to have some yogurt or whole wheat bread.

More nutritious than, let's say, a fast food something or other. So if you take that tomato sauce away and they whip together a little salad, and the kids don't want to eat the raw vegetables that are just plain. They want some salad dressing on it. You picked up some salad dressing. And for breakfast, they were going to have some yogurt or whole wheat bread.

More nutritious than, let's say, a fast food something or other. So if you take that tomato sauce away and they whip together a little salad, and the kids don't want to eat the raw vegetables that are just plain. They want some salad dressing on it. You picked up some salad dressing. And for breakfast, they were going to have some yogurt or whole wheat bread.

So they're going to make some toast and put some avocado on it and have some avocado toast. And it was said whole wheat bread. All four of those things could have met the criteria for ultra-processed food. So you take those off. They can't have the salad. They can't have the pasta. They can't have the yogurt. And they can't have the avocado toast because you took those all away.

So they're going to make some toast and put some avocado on it and have some avocado toast. And it was said whole wheat bread. All four of those things could have met the criteria for ultra-processed food. So you take those off. They can't have the salad. They can't have the pasta. They can't have the yogurt. And they can't have the avocado toast because you took those all away.

So they're going to make some toast and put some avocado on it and have some avocado toast. And it was said whole wheat bread. All four of those things could have met the criteria for ultra-processed food. So you take those off. They can't have the salad. They can't have the pasta. They can't have the yogurt. And they can't have the avocado toast because you took those all away.

Unless we had seen that and said, yes, we know these should be replaced with more nutritious food that don't have the cosmetic additives. And until we get to that place, you can't get rid of them all. That's just cruel.

Unless we had seen that and said, yes, we know these should be replaced with more nutritious food that don't have the cosmetic additives. And until we get to that place, you can't get rid of them all. That's just cruel.

Unless we had seen that and said, yes, we know these should be replaced with more nutritious food that don't have the cosmetic additives. And until we get to that place, you can't get rid of them all. That's just cruel.

So probably at least two answers, and one of them is going to be, I can't tell you how many Europeans or other folks from other countries have said, I bought the same product that I buy in my home country here, and it has twice as many ingredients. It's the same company. It's the same food. It could be, what's the hazelnut spread?

So probably at least two answers, and one of them is going to be, I can't tell you how many Europeans or other folks from other countries have said, I bought the same product that I buy in my home country here, and it has twice as many ingredients. It's the same company. It's the same food. It could be, what's the hazelnut spread?

So probably at least two answers, and one of them is going to be, I can't tell you how many Europeans or other folks from other countries have said, I bought the same product that I buy in my home country here, and it has twice as many ingredients. It's the same company. It's the same food. It could be, what's the hazelnut spread?

Nutella. Like, here's the Nutella you sell here, and here's the Nutella I buy there. I've had multiple people bring those up to me and show me the different ingredients. And so it can be made the other country way. But in the U.S., it's made another way for Americans. So if we could even just make that move, if we could say, okay, you already make this in another country another way.

Nutella. Like, here's the Nutella you sell here, and here's the Nutella I buy there. I've had multiple people bring those up to me and show me the different ingredients. And so it can be made the other country way. But in the U.S., it's made another way for Americans. So if we could even just make that move, if we could say, okay, you already make this in another country another way.

Nutella. Like, here's the Nutella you sell here, and here's the Nutella I buy there. I've had multiple people bring those up to me and show me the different ingredients. And so it can be made the other country way. But in the U.S., it's made another way for Americans. So if we could even just make that move, if we could say, okay, you already make this in another country another way.

Can you just make it the same way in the U.S.? That would be a start right there.