Dr. Christopher Gardner

Can you just make it the same way in the U.S.? That would be a start right there.

Can you just make it the same way in the U.S.? That would be a start right there.

I agree. I can't back up that one statement either. But I think that is true for reasons that I can't explain. And that's why it would be helpful to talk more to the food industry. I think there are some challenges with this reaction against ultra-processed foods. I think there are some problems with NOVA that I brought up earlier. You'd have to make those foods accessible.

I agree. I can't back up that one statement either. But I think that is true for reasons that I can't explain. And that's why it would be helpful to talk more to the food industry. I think there are some challenges with this reaction against ultra-processed foods. I think there are some problems with NOVA that I brought up earlier. You'd have to make those foods accessible.

I agree. I can't back up that one statement either. But I think that is true for reasons that I can't explain. And that's why it would be helpful to talk more to the food industry. I think there are some challenges with this reaction against ultra-processed foods. I think there are some problems with NOVA that I brought up earlier. You'd have to make those foods accessible.

But some of them you could fairly quickly if you took advantage of some of the other ways that people are making it. And the rules are just too loose, right? So I think that's important. And the level at which this could be impactful is not educating the public to look at the back and find the ultra-processed cosmetic additive and removing it.

But some of them you could fairly quickly if you took advantage of some of the other ways that people are making it. And the rules are just too loose, right? So I think that's important. And the level at which this could be impactful is not educating the public to look at the back and find the ultra-processed cosmetic additive and removing it.

But some of them you could fairly quickly if you took advantage of some of the other ways that people are making it. And the rules are just too loose, right? So I think that's important. And the level at which this could be impactful is not educating the public to look at the back and find the ultra-processed cosmetic additive and removing it.

It's to say that we're going to do this and the food industry will say, I'm going to have to reformulate. If somebody is going to buy my product, if they're going to call me out on this. Not only am I going to have to reformulate, it won't be hard because I do it in another country and I could reformulate. And so that ingredient will be gone.

It's to say that we're going to do this and the food industry will say, I'm going to have to reformulate. If somebody is going to buy my product, if they're going to call me out on this. Not only am I going to have to reformulate, it won't be hard because I do it in another country and I could reformulate. And so that ingredient will be gone.

It's to say that we're going to do this and the food industry will say, I'm going to have to reformulate. If somebody is going to buy my product, if they're going to call me out on this. Not only am I going to have to reformulate, it won't be hard because I do it in another country and I could reformulate. And so that ingredient will be gone.

So several times. So I've got avocado money. I took soy money. Most recently, I took Beyond Meat money. Let me talk about the Beyond Meat, which was the most recent one. I pitted Beyond Meat versus red meat for cardiometabolic outcomes. And the Beyond Meat won in several categories over the red meat. And I got a lot of grief for that.

So several times. So I've got avocado money. I took soy money. Most recently, I took Beyond Meat money. Let me talk about the Beyond Meat, which was the most recent one. I pitted Beyond Meat versus red meat for cardiometabolic outcomes. And the Beyond Meat won in several categories over the red meat. And I got a lot of grief for that.

So several times. So I've got avocado money. I took soy money. Most recently, I took Beyond Meat money. Let me talk about the Beyond Meat, which was the most recent one. I pitted Beyond Meat versus red meat for cardiometabolic outcomes. And the Beyond Meat won in several categories over the red meat. And I got a lot of grief for that.

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Oh, my God. Gardner's an industry shill. All he does is take... No, most of my money does not come from there, but I actually couldn't get NIH funding to do that because they would say, wait a sec, Beyond Meat makes a crap ton of money. They just sold their IPO. Why would we fund that research? Let the food industry fund that. That actually happens... All the time.

Oh, my God. Gardner's an industry shill. All he does is take... No, most of my money does not come from there, but I actually couldn't get NIH funding to do that because they would say, wait a sec, Beyond Meat makes a crap ton of money. They just sold their IPO. Why would we fund that research? Let the food industry fund that. That actually happens... All the time.

Oh, my God. Gardner's an industry shill. All he does is take... No, most of my money does not come from there, but I actually couldn't get NIH funding to do that because they would say, wait a sec, Beyond Meat makes a crap ton of money. They just sold their IPO. Why would we fund that research? Let the food industry fund that. That actually happens... All the time.