Dr. Ciara Kelly

But it still isn't nothing to people to come out and say it.

Because there still are issues for people in terms of discrimination and bias and prejudice and all of that.

Yeah, I hope so.

I'm so glad to hear that.

But yes, all of that is the backdrop and I suppose the improved situation.

I think it might be easier and I'm only...

talking shit here now but I think it might be easier for girls because my daughter is gay and she came out your daughter's gay yeah and she came out while she was still in school while she was in her teens and so she felt comfortable enough yeah and I remember

you know been absolutely trying to be supportive and then saying to her just did I do okay because I I hope I meant to but I don't know if I got it right do you know what I mean because I was saying I realised what I was saying is I don't mind I don't care and then I was thinking maybe that's not that's not enough it's not about not minding or not caring it's about celebrating and loving her and all of this so I didn't know if I'd gotten it right and so about maybe four or five days after um

she came out to me a friend of mine does kind of graphic design stuff and you know the front of those penguin classic books those orange fronts Pride and Prejudice I got her to mock up Pride and Prejudice but put no prejudice in front in rainbow colours like the no and I got it framed and I went to her and I said I don't know if I got it right but I want you to know how much I love you and how much I just want you to be happy so whatever makes you happy and feel fulfilled and feel like your authentic self and all of the things I'd

still don't know if those are the right words so I got you this and she looked at it and she started crying and then I started crying but I still don't know if I and I said it to her you know and she goes no you did fine you did fine but you know the way I wanted to because you hear so many terrible stories about people coming out to their families and their families let them down and I didn't want to be

the person who let her down, you know, so... That's amazing, that's lovely.

Yeah, no, it was, and she has a lovely girlfriend, and it's all good.

But she told me that in her school, and she was in an all-girls school, that everyone experimented, like the whole lot experimented, and she said some of the girls...

were gay.

Some of them were probably bi and some of them were just trying, trying it out.

So she said some people were into it, some people were much less into it, but everybody tried it on and all the girls were kissing to see how they kind of felt about things.

It was also during the pandemic, they didn't have a lot of

They didn't have a lot going on.

God love them.

But she said it was.