Dr. Daniel Amen

Casey's brain was better, like really better, but the producer's brain was worse.

And it sort of broke my heart because, you know, I get attached to how brains do.

And I'm like, why is it worse?

He goes, I don't know.

I've done this and I've done that.

And then he texted me.

He said, the only thing I did differently

Between the first scan and the second is I picked up Kratom.

And I'm like, why did you pick up Kratom?

Pick up means started using?

Started using Kratom.

And he was anxious, something.

And he said a friend told him that would be helpful.

I'm like, you need to stop because it's clearly damaging your brain.

No, it's in the sort of gray period where clearly it's legal.

They've tried to ban it a couple of times, but the Kratom lobby gets to the regulators.

And I'm hoping that at some point this administration looks at it.

I think just this sort of general lie that, uh, and we unleashed these things without long-term neuroscience study because marijuana was banned.

It got banned in 1937.

Uh, they couldn't study it sort of like psilocybin.