Dr. David Burns

And she says, I'm starting to feel a lot better, but I want to do more. And then she took him next door where there was a Christmas party going on and she made him stand in front of all the neighbors and shout out, I'm a sexual pervert and I deserve punishment. And then in the final scene, she put him in a jail in front of her house, an open air jail. This is all in her mind.

And she says, I'm starting to feel a lot better, but I want to do more. And then she took him next door where there was a Christmas party going on and she made him stand in front of all the neighbors and shout out, I'm a sexual pervert and I deserve punishment. And then in the final scene, she put him in a jail in front of her house, an open air jail. This is all in her mind.

Mind you, it's kind of a fantasy. And there's no walls, but there are prison bars. And then on the jail, it says sexual pervert. So everyone will know he's a sexual pervert. And he has to sit out there and live in that jail. And she said that really helped her and she liked it. And then she went into a whole other, she said, there's another one I want to do. And it got even more grotesque.

Mind you, it's kind of a fantasy. And there's no walls, but there are prison bars. And then on the jail, it says sexual pervert. So everyone will know he's a sexual pervert. And he has to sit out there and live in that jail. And she said that really helped her and she liked it. And then she went into a whole other, she said, there's another one I want to do. And it got even more grotesque.

And her roommate had been raped in the woods by a gang. in an old broken-down vehicle, and she wanted to reimagine that one. Even though she hadn't been there, the roommate told her about it, and she couldn't get these pictures out of her head.

And her roommate had been raped in the woods by a gang. in an old broken-down vehicle, and she wanted to reimagine that one. Even though she hadn't been there, the roommate told her about it, and she couldn't get these pictures out of her head.

And so she saw them raping her roommate, and then she grabbed them one by one and castrated them with a bayonet and watched them all bleed to death, all eight boys. And to me, it was incredibly grotesque. And I didn't know if it was good therapy or malpractice. It was frightening to me.

And so she saw them raping her roommate, and then she grabbed them one by one and castrated them with a bayonet and watched them all bleed to death, all eight boys. And to me, it was incredibly grotesque. And I didn't know if it was good therapy or malpractice. It was frightening to me.

But she gave me really high grades at the end of the session on the empathy and helpfulness and appeared to have really liked the session. It's a controversial technique because it often becomes violent. And And the experts have debated about that and said, if you don't permit them to have their violent fantasies, then you're doing more repression.

But she gave me really high grades at the end of the session on the empathy and helpfulness and appeared to have really liked the session. It's a controversial technique because it often becomes violent. And And the experts have debated about that and said, if you don't permit them to have their violent fantasies, then you're doing more repression.

And the idea is to give them, you know, the freedom of thought and so forth. And so that's what I did. But she came back the next week, and she showed me some plane tickets she had. She said, you know, you might like this. And she had gotten a round-trip ticket to Nepal. Her mother had a business meeting in Nepal, so she told her mother, she said, doctor wants me to take public transportation.

And the idea is to give them, you know, the freedom of thought and so forth. And so that's what I did. But she came back the next week, and she showed me some plane tickets she had. She said, you know, you might like this. And she had gotten a round-trip ticket to Nepal. Her mother had a business meeting in Nepal, so she told her mother, she said, doctor wants me to take public transportation.

How about if I ride with you to Nepal today? The mother was going to be in Nepal for a week, and then I'll take a plane back alone, and I'll be for 23 hours alone on public transportation. Is that enough, Dr. Burns? I said, more than enough. And that's what she did. And she was then no longer afraid of public transportation.

How about if I ride with you to Nepal today? The mother was going to be in Nepal for a week, and then I'll take a plane back alone, and I'll be for 23 hours alone on public transportation. Is that enough, Dr. Burns? I said, more than enough. And that's what she did. And she was then no longer afraid of public transportation.

Now, you've heard about memory rescripting, and the question is, why was that helpful to her? Where did she find the courage? to do the thing that she'd been unable to do? And Rhonda and Matt will now give brilliant answers to that question.

Now, you've heard about memory rescripting, and the question is, why was that helpful to her? Where did she find the courage? to do the thing that she'd been unable to do? And Rhonda and Matt will now give brilliant answers to that question.

Yeah, I love that. That's a great one. Do you have any hunch on it, Rhonda?

Yeah, I love that. That's a great one. Do you have any hunch on it, Rhonda?

Yeah, I think that's it. I love what both of you said, that she experienced herself as a powerful woman, not as a helpless little girl. As a little girl, she was helpless, and she's changing her mindset. and having the chance to feel powerful and to realize that she is powerful. So that, I mean, what a great answer you gave there, Rhonda. You both, you know, were spot on.

Yeah, I think that's it. I love what both of you said, that she experienced herself as a powerful woman, not as a helpless little girl. As a little girl, she was helpless, and she's changing her mindset. and having the chance to feel powerful and to realize that she is powerful. So that, I mean, what a great answer you gave there, Rhonda. You both, you know, were spot on.