Dr. David Burns

And then we can, you know, turn this question list into... Two or three podcasts or, you know, so how are we doing on our answer to this question, Jason?

And then we can, you know, turn this question list into... Two or three podcasts or, you know, so how are we doing on our answer to this question, Jason?

Jill Levitt and I have, that's a great question you asked there. And Jill Levitt and I have gone somewhat in the opposite direction. We used to think of working on a self-defeating belief as kind of an abstract thing.

Jill Levitt and I have, that's a great question you asked there. And Jill Levitt and I have gone somewhat in the opposite direction. We used to think of working on a self-defeating belief as kind of an abstract thing.

thing you can do and then you've got the daily mood log which is a very practical thing you can do and lately we were of the belief that actually doing a daily mood log at a particular moment that you're upset

thing you can do and then you've got the daily mood log which is a very practical thing you can do and lately we were of the belief that actually doing a daily mood log at a particular moment that you're upset

and talking back to your negative thoughts at that moment and crushing them, you know, being convincing that that's actually the best way to work on a self-defeating belief at one moment in time when you're upset. And you can work on it by talking back to the negative thoughts that you're having at that moment, if that makes sense.

and talking back to your negative thoughts at that moment and crushing them, you know, being convincing that that's actually the best way to work on a self-defeating belief at one moment in time when you're upset. And you can work on it by talking back to the negative thoughts that you're having at that moment, if that makes sense.

Any comment on that, Jason?

Any comment on that, Jason?

I didn't completely get what you said, but Rhonda is going to summarize it now so I'll understand it.

I didn't completely get what you said, but Rhonda is going to summarize it now so I'll understand it.

Yeah. And that's something you can learn with externalization of voices, too. I think so. Yeah.

Yeah. And that's something you can learn with externalization of voices, too. I think so. Yeah.

Yeah. Do you want to do the achievement one? We can do externalization of voices.

Yeah. Do you want to do the achievement one? We can do externalization of voices.

Yeah, I'll be the positive thought if you like, but we need some specifics so we know the context.

Yeah, I'll be the positive thought if you like, but we need some specifics so we know the context.

OK, yeah. And and you can say, David, you're getting kind of older over the hill and you're getting less less successful. And so you're going to be less worthwhile or something like that. Would that work?

OK, yeah. And and you can say, David, you're getting kind of older over the hill and you're getting less less successful. And so you're going to be less worthwhile or something like that. Would that work?