Dr. David Burns

I'll tell you how I would answer it.

Say, David, you're dumb because you have the fear of heights.

Say, David, you're dumb because you have the fear of heights.

No, no, no, no. I have the fear of heights, that's for sure. And I'm often dumb about all kinds of things. You see, it's just the tip of the iceberg. The fear of the heights and the dumbness actually aren't related, but they both have their own glorious independent existences. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So who won that one?

No, no, no, no. I have the fear of heights, that's for sure. And I'm often dumb about all kinds of things. You see, it's just the tip of the iceberg. The fear of the heights and the dumbness actually aren't related, but they both have their own glorious independent existences. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So who won that one?

Yeah. I just find any attempt to minimize, you know, the self-criminal system can detract from, you know, the power.

Yeah. I just find any attempt to minimize, you know, the self-criminal system can detract from, you know, the power.

Oh, yeah. That's a toughie right there.

Oh, yeah. That's a toughie right there.

Highway 17.

Highway 17.

Oh, is that right?

Oh, is that right?

And a super fun thing to do.

And a super fun thing to do.

Go on the boardwalk and get some of that great junk food, snow cones and candy apples.

Go on the boardwalk and get some of that great junk food, snow cones and candy apples.

Man, this is creeping me out. Stop.

Man, this is creeping me out. Stop.

You have to bring those things to life for me because I'm a dummy. The first thing is when you used imaginal exposure and you said by the third one, the percentages were lower that you could bring yourself to. Was that all imaginal or you did imaginal exposure and then did the drive home?