Dr. David Burns

That hiding in shame is where things get really, really intensified. And it's so much fun to accept your failures and flaws and shortcomings. Once you've accepted it yourself, I think it almost makes you more appealing to have some flaws as a human being, especially if you're treating others with love and presenting yourself as just a flawed human being. Yeah.

That hiding in shame is where things get really, really intensified. And it's so much fun to accept your failures and flaws and shortcomings. Once you've accepted it yourself, I think it almost makes you more appealing to have some flaws as a human being, especially if you're treating others with love and presenting yourself as just a flawed human being. Yeah.

I love that, Jason. I do when I write show notes, like, well, I've already written them for this episode, but I use the same strategy. Sometimes I write them after the show because it's not an Ask David, but I tell myself, do an anti-perfectionistic show notes. Just do something well below average.

I love that, Jason. I do when I write show notes, like, well, I've already written them for this episode, but I use the same strategy. Sometimes I write them after the show because it's not an Ask David, but I tell myself, do an anti-perfectionistic show notes. Just do something well below average.

And then send it out to people to check it out and edit it and change it and tell them it's just an unedited off the top of my head thing that isn't very good. And so please fix it up and correct it and delete things and add whatever you want. And then that makes it real easy just to spit out some average junk. which is what the show notes consist of.

And then send it out to people to check it out and edit it and change it and tell them it's just an unedited off the top of my head thing that isn't very good. And so please fix it up and correct it and delete things and add whatever you want. And then that makes it real easy just to spit out some average junk. which is what the show notes consist of.

And then I send them out to everyone to, you know, say the people who are on the show and say, check this out, change anything you want. And then most of the time people say, oh, this is great, just the way it is. It's so interesting. And Rhonda, sometimes you'll find some typos or something and it makes some corrections that I always appreciate. But it's like you can get away with being average.

And then I send them out to everyone to, you know, say the people who are on the show and say, check this out, change anything you want. And then most of the time people say, oh, this is great, just the way it is. It's so interesting. And Rhonda, sometimes you'll find some typos or something and it makes some corrections that I always appreciate. But it's like you can get away with being average.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, my first academic talk was at Oxford in England at a conference, and I was terribly anxious, and I was just certain I would blow it. It was even worse than the Harvard thing. It was a lot worse. And I did blow it. It was even worse than what I had imagined, and I couldn't sleep a wink the night before.

Yeah, my first academic talk was at Oxford in England at a conference, and I was terribly anxious, and I was just certain I would blow it. It was even worse than the Harvard thing. It was a lot worse. And I did blow it. It was even worse than what I had imagined, and I couldn't sleep a wink the night before.

I was just up wandering around the Oxford campus, and owls were hooting at me sarcastically, and the whole world seemed against me. And my talk wasn't until the end of the following day, which was the end of the conference. And I was so nervous, it was just horrible. It was the most humiliating experience I've ever had, I think. But then I worked to getting over that.

I was just up wandering around the Oxford campus, and owls were hooting at me sarcastically, and the whole world seemed against me. And my talk wasn't until the end of the following day, which was the end of the conference. And I was so nervous, it was just horrible. It was the most humiliating experience I've ever had, I think. But then I worked to getting over that.

And it's just like what you say, Matt. Now I'm teaching tonight. This is my second podcast today. And I'm confronting it all the time. And now the thing that I was so afraid of, I love doing. But I still get a little anxious from time to time. Before this morning's podcast, I was very anxious because I thought this guy was going to challenge me and rip me to shreds.

And it's just like what you say, Matt. Now I'm teaching tonight. This is my second podcast today. And I'm confronting it all the time. And now the thing that I was so afraid of, I love doing. But I still get a little anxious from time to time. Before this morning's podcast, I was very anxious because I thought this guy was going to challenge me and rip me to shreds.

I don't know how I got that idea. But probably because my computer was failing and I was in a state of high anxiety. But he was just so sweet and kind, and so it was just a wonderful, wonderful experience. He's the guy who wrote F Depression and F Anxiety. And so I thought he'd be real aggressive. But he was just the kindest guy you can imagine.

I don't know how I got that idea. But probably because my computer was failing and I was in a state of high anxiety. But he was just so sweet and kind, and so it was just a wonderful, wonderful experience. He's the guy who wrote F Depression and F Anxiety. And so I thought he'd be real aggressive. But he was just the kindest guy you can imagine.

I loved having you on today, Jason. I'm so grateful. It was just that much richer, our podcast, because of you. Just don't ever do it again. You got it.

I loved having you on today, Jason. I'm so grateful. It was just that much richer, our podcast, because of you. Just don't ever do it again. You got it.