Dr. David Eagleman

And so you, um, things like that.

Um, and I also think that there's another technique that might be super useful here, which is, and this is, I've been exploring this a lot lately, what I'm calling the complexification of relationships, meaning, um,

If you have something in common with someone and then you find out later that that person has a very different opinion than you do on some hot button political issue, you're more willing to listen to them because you're already pals on the, you know, you go surfing together, you know, whatever.

You like the same sports team or whatever.

You're more willing to listen.

My example for this is the Iroquois Native Americans who were up in sort of northern Wisconsin area.

Five tribes, they all killed each other for years and years.

They had a new leader come in, this guy, Dena Gowata, who came to be known as the great peacemaker.

What he did is he said, look, you've got these five tribes.

I'm going to assign each person membership in a clan.

So let's say we're in the same tribe, but you're a member of the beaver clan.

I'm a member of the eagle clan and so on.

And these clan memberships are cross-cutting.

Such that now you say, hey, let's go invade that tribe over the hill.

And I say, oh, you know, I don't know.

That guy's a member of the Eagle Clan and so am I. You know, I've got these cross-cutting relationships now and I'm less likely, I'm less willing to do that.

And this ties back to the experiments we did that I mentioned with the hand stabbing.

What we now do is we say the year is 2029 and these three religions have teamed up against these three religions.

And now you see the different hands get stabbed.

But the ones who I just told you in one sentence are your allies now.