Dr. Eliza Philby

But least likely to admit it.

Oh, wow.

So there's this sort of weird sort of scenario that women are much more likely to say, I got help from my parents than men.

Men are much more likely to lean on a kind of self-made narrative.

However, you know, sort of airbrushed.

And I think it pierces at the heart of this perception of what masculinity is all about, which is you are the breadwinner.

You bring home the bacon.

You create the financial security that enable women to do what they need to do and breed, breed, breed.

We are still so far from that being.

you know countered in society it's so pervasive and you know i remember when i you know my husband and i we've we've i call us we have a seesaw marriage at one point he was earning more and then another point i was earning more and then you know and so i've been a breadwinner and it's it's it's really interesting how people reacted to it what what did you notice

you know, you're carrying a lot.

You know, there's this perception of, yeah, you're carrying the children, you're carrying the domestic burdens, but you're also carrying the financial burdens, you know.

Okay, let's just box your husband as not performing, you know.

Wow.

The assumptions made, well, the reality was, was that he was doing most of the childcare, and it wasn't childcare because it's his kids.

He was doing most of the domestic chores.

He was being a father.

I think you spend too much time with us now.

I know you've corrupted me.

Oh my God.