Dr. Ellen Langer

You know, a bucket list, it's like work, you know, where I need a vacation.

And if you're working the right way, you should never need a vacation.

It's different wanting a vacation.

Like a glass, and you're going to pour water in it, and the glass is full, it's full.

And it doesn't have to be full by going on a safari or whatever else might be on people's bucket list.

And I'm not speaking against travel, vacations, but you shouldn't need them.

You know, as you said, you walk outside, all of a sudden you see new things.

I mean, there are people, you know, when you're young and you go to Europe and you go to all of the cathedrals, if you ask any of those people, do we have any cathedrals back in the States?

They wouldn't know.

It's just something you do in this other location.

But the more important part of it is that when the moment is full, it's full.

And then you don't need anything beyond that.

And the fullness can be garnered from very little, very small things.

We don't have to be investing large sums of money and so on.

You know, if you were very stressed and you asked me to help you,

Many things I could do.

But one, I might say to you, you know, thread a needle.

Here's a needle, a threadage.

And you'd be threading that needle.

And then afterwards, I say to you, so were you stressed when you were threading the needle?