Dr. Ellen Langer

And so I enjoyed it more than any other class I taught.

Well, I think that what we need to do, and people, there's data, not mine, that shows trying not to think about something is totally ineffective.

It always comes back.

But so what you want to do is not try not to think about it, but to think about it differently.

Interpret it differently.

And your feelings will be based on your interpretations.

you know so that for me the fire you know was not the scary thing it you know so i lost something so who cares right um and then i got all of this uh attention this uh feeling of the goodness of stranger community yeah yeah and so it it's not a scary thing for me

So if we open up our minds and see that no matter what we're experiencing, there are multiple ways of understanding it.

There is no one way of looking at it.

And that's what we do when we're being mindless.

And then it lends itself to, again, all sorts of possibilities.

It occurs to me that we only talked about the counterclockwise study.

With your permission.

Go ahead.

Yeah, share another one.

Because there are many in the book, but to be more persuaded of this mind-body unity, let's see, the next study in that series was chambermaids, which is fun.

This is awesome, yeah.

Chambermaids, I didn't realize this until we did the study, don't see their work as exercise.

because the surgeon general says exercise is what you do after work.

You sit in a chair all day, that's when you get your exercise.