Dr Emily

Exactly.

So, I mean, that's such a powerful moment in that movie.

And I must say that early in my therapy career, I probably thought that was actually...

Going to be relevant for everybody, that kind of response, like this leaning in and me telling you that it was not your fault.

Yes, that stuff's important.

But for a lot of people, me telling you that you're good enough, me telling you or even you telling you that I'm good enough is actually not enough for change.

So it's like this difference between intellectually knowing that I'm good enough and feeling that I'm good enough.

Does that make sense?

Yeah.

Yes.

And so this is really simply kind of understood by saying –

If you had a really harsh inner critic and that critic is always telling you you're too loud, if you were to use a top-down approach, yes, we'd look at that thought and try and find other ways of having a more balanced belief about it.

But if I just simply told you, you know, Bridge, you're not too loud, and you'd be like, yeah, KM.

Yeah, I wouldn't believe you.

Yes, exactly.

You basically gather the feeling through the exposure.

And this is the same thing that we would do even with like inner child work is that we might go back to some early memories where you felt ashamed or scared or like you had no voice.

And we would work with those memories to give you the felt experience of having some kind of need better met for you.

No, it doesn't, but we can.

So typically, and I've made this, I've had this, I can't speak today.