Dr. Eric Haseltine

And I believe that the people in the intelligence community, State Department and CIA, who say there's nothing there, I don't think they know it and they're covering it up.

I think they don't believe it because I have seen that over and over and over again.

And at the end of the essay, I quote Upton Sinclair, who said, you can't explain something to a man whose salary depends on not understanding it.

Right.

Again, it gets back to the common theme you've heard us talk about, which is whenever you have an instrument reporting something, ask about the instrument itself.

Right.

So the people who aren't believing it

can't believe it.

Because if they believed it, their whole ego structure would fall apart.

So they have to believe it.

And so I think they truly think there's nothing there.

One of them used to work for me.

I know him extremely well.

Jesus.

And we had a long conversation with him recently.

I can't mention his name or where he worked.

But what bothers us the most about it is the victimizations of the victims.

Imagine serving your country, being wounded in service of your country, and your country says, no, you didn't have that happen, and you're crazy.

It's scary.

It's awful.