Dr. Eric Haseltine

Well, maybe.

But if it's nuclear, what else is it about the nuclear that might lead to other phenomena?

And this is where we try to be objective because we want to kind of send a message to the world that hardcore objective scientists who are more interested in the truth than their particular agenda, who have rigorous...

scientific process are taking this seriously.

And so that's why we think it's really important to be hyper-rigorous and look at all possibilities.

So again, about the nuclear, maybe yes, maybe no.

I wouldn't come down hard yet on what I think is happening there.

But the thing is, really hardcore, serious scientists with resources really don't look at these issues.

Now the government is prone to say, oh yeah, we've got this 18 looking at it, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Don't believe it.

They have someone looking at it to some degree, but are the best of the best really going to risk their careers to look at this and volunteer for it?

See, I got to say, I'm not objective.

here because I've seen so many times being inside the government where for what we call in Washington the optics Congress wants us to look into this let's look into it and let's form a team and let's put scientists on it but you saw in 60 minutes that guy who said he quit

said, that woman came to him and said, we got to turn down the temperature on this thing.

And so people inside the intelligence community told me, like, I was starting to work in my own lab to reproduce it and to come up with a sensor to sense this stuff.

And I said, I'm making progress, but it's on my own dime.

I'll continue on my own dime, but I have to know if I succeed, you'd want it.

And he goes, forget it.

It is career ending here.

If you even ask these questions, it's just,