Dr. Eric Haseltine

They don't really care.

They already know the answer they want.

This isn't serious.

And so when it comes to UFOs and all this other stuff, if I had to be a betting man, I'd say they don't really take it seriously.

Oh, yeah.

He was the guy who gave me my intelligence distinguished service medal when I left.

Which one?

The Mike Rogers, the congressman or Mike Rogers, the head of NSA?

Oh yeah, there's some, but it's all not official.

Aviators, they like to be called aviators.

They aren't mere pilots.

They say all of us have seen a lot of stuff and none of us say anything because we want to keep flying.

Yeah.

And in the intelligence world, there's a really unfortunate thing that happens.

It really bothers me a lot.

And I've had it happen to me personally in the war in Iraq and the connection between Iraq and Al Qaeda.

In intelligence, we're supposed to speak truth to power.

We're supposed to be objective reporters who report what we think is happening with what confidence and to never let our own political agendas color what we tell policymakers.

But you heard on the 60 Minutes interview where they said, well, look, if it's the Russians doing it to us, that's an act of war.

Because they've done it against very senior U.S.