Dr. Eric Haseltine

And I'm trying to get more money to do high risk, high reward research in the community that consumed 100 percent of my time.

And I except when I was going to be interviewed by 60 Minutes and they wanted to ask me about this.

I never even came up.

Yes.

Yes.

I'm glad you brought that up because we go through NASA's innovative propulsion program, which I think is fantastic because it's one part of the government that's saying, we will fund anything that isn't impossible.

I love that approach.

And they give you a little funding if you can play with it.

And an example of that is a warp drive.

And again, in our book, The Shadow of Time, we get into the possibilities of, you know, what people don't talk about when you talk about traveling near the speed of light is the acceleration and deceleration.

Right.

You've got to accelerate from nothing to near the speed of light, and then you've got to slow down to get where you're going to go.

Well, either those take a really long time.

which gets rid of a lot of the advantage of traveling that fast.

Or you have an organism that can withstand unbelievable Gs, which... Yeah.

So I think the bottom line of everything that she's saying is we should never say never when it comes to nothing could sustain interstellar travel, nothing could sustain the kind of Gs that we see with the tic-tac, that we actually have existence proofs that those things are possible.

But getting back to the question you asked about propulsion, which this is relevant because some of these propulsions get to extreme accelerations and radiation even.

Yeah.

The ones that I think are the most interesting are where you're not putting the power source on the vehicle.

So, for example, we have this video, and we know the guy who did it at Sandia National Lab and at White Sands, where you take a disc, a flying saucer, basically, and you put a pulse laser, just like I said, and you shoot it up and you propel it with laser energy.