Dr. Gabor Maté

And I take it a step further.

I talk about interpersonal biology so that...

What happens to people physiologically is very affected.

I'll give you two examples.

Yes.

But affected by their culture and their family.

So we've known for decades that children whose parents are stressed are much more likely to have asthma.

The parents' stresses affect the physiology of the child.

The breathing.

They narrow the air tubes, they cause inflammation.

By the way, how do we treat asthma with stress hormones, adrenaline and cortisol?

You know, we know American black women, the more experiences of racism they have to endure, the greater the risk for asthma.

We know that men who were sexually abused in childhood

The risk of heart disease triples.

I could go on.

Women who suffer symptoms of PTSD severely, the risk of ovarian cancer doubles.

Why?

Because you can't separate the emotions from the body.

It's one unit, scientifically speaking, not just from the point of view of indigenous wisdom, but modern science.

So when you say, despite all this knowledge, I'm saying what's missing from the knowledge is the wisdom.