Dr. Gabor Maté

And not just the wisdom, even the science.

That's what's so ironic.

So I'm a physician, and as doctors, we always talk about evidence-based practice.

And I say, fine.

My God, I only wish we had evidence-based practice.

Let's look at the evidence.

What's the evidence for separating the mind from the body?

Multiple sclerosis, this mysterious illness.

The guy who first described multiple sclerosis was a French neurologist, Jean Martin Charcot, in the 19th century.

He said that it was a disease caused by grief and long-term worry.

Since then, there's been multiple studies showing the relationship of stress, trauma, and multiple sclerosis.

You go to the average neurologist with symptoms of MS, nobody's gonna ask you about your trauma.

Nobody's gonna ask you about your stress.

And why is that significant?

Because if you deal with the trauma and the stress, your multiple sclerosis can actually improve significantly.

So there's a huge gap.

between the scientific evidence and how we practice medicine.

And what we call scientific evidence-based practice is miraculous, it's amazing, but it's way too narrow.

Okay, that's been studied as well.

So there was a great Canadian physician who actually was one of the founding physicians at Johns Hopkins Medical School.