Dr. Gabrielle Lyon

No.

And where does the RDA come into all of this?

Well, there's the RDA, and then there's the dietary guidelines, and then there's

the reference intake.

So there's a lot of numbers that become confusing.

You're smiling at me.

How do you, you had mentioned earlier when we started this conversation that you are hoping that people choose, that here's the science, you now decide.

Where do you think the other institutions are going to come in?

So you've got the American Heart Association and you just have various other medical associations that have been in alignment with the old dietary guidelines.

You can find that in our Supercast version.

Just kidding.

I'm kidding.

Your work is really important and you've spent a lifetime working on this and now we're seeing it into practice.

And I will say what I've noticed is I expected you to be emotionally charged, very excited, but I kind of got that wrong.

And that's

I would say the mark of a good scientist, because you're very careful about the statements that you're making.

You're calculated in the words that you're using for the interpretation to the general population, as well as what the data shows, what it doesn't, as opposed to, say, perhaps someone less skilled or mature or whatever, however you want to put it.

And I think that that's really valuable.

We're going to need more of that, especially as these guidelines come out and people have reactions to them because it is flipping the pyramid upside down.

We have a way that people can tackle these guidelines.