Dr. Gabrielle Lyon

Because as you were talking, just personally, I'm thinking, I know I will never feel like I've arrived.

I know that there is no arrival.

The job and the mission will never be complete.

And I've kind of come to peace with that.

However,

I feel that it's my responsibility that if I have the ability to help support, because I believe that the world can be stronger and more resilient, I have an obligation to do that.

And so...

I'm just thinking about how would I balance because I don't necessarily feel burnt out, but I recognize that I'll never arrive.

Yet I'll always push.

That is in my DNA.

It is how I've always been.

And there's probably a healthy way to do that with a level of cadence for a lifetime.

Oh, no.

The sleep, some of those other things.

Is there, and if someone was listening to this, because I can imagine many people feel that way, that they have a mission and a responsibility to do whatever it is that they need to do.

Is there a way to just put in that piece?

Wait, they were 22 times, okay, more likely.

So the hobby that they would pick were creative expression.

Do you have to be good at the hobby?

No.