Dr. Gabrielle Lyon

I would say the mark of a good scientist, because you're very careful about the statements that you're making.

You're calculated in the words that you're using for the interpretation to the general population, as well as what the data shows, what it doesn't, as opposed to, say, perhaps someone less skilled or mature or whatever, however you want to put it.

And I think that that's really valuable.

We're going to need more of that, especially as these guidelines come out and people have reactions to them because it is flipping the pyramid upside down.

We have a way that people can tackle these guidelines.

It is in the Forever Strong playbook.

It brings to life these guidelines, which is fantastic.

just so happen.

I mean, it wasn't happenstance, but the timing ended up really working out.

And I think that the playbook is a tactical field manual and has the potential to really change the way nutrition is done.

So thank you.

If someone wanted to look at these guidelines, they're freely available online.

Is that accurate?

And the science is laid out.

It's available for people to be able to look at the studies, how it was thought about, what is available.

Sounds like a walk in the park, just did it over lunch.

You said something else that I think is extremely important.

And you said that you were very clear that it wasn't about biases and opinions.

Was that hard to do?

What you're saying is very transparent.