Dr. Gabrielle Lyon

It found in baked goods and moving the recommendation over to saturated fats from animal products.

What about as we go down the list, the fruits and vegetables you had said we were talking off camera, they're actually a little bit lower than was previously recommended.

The acknowledgement of a lower carbohydrate diet, how are carbohydrates approached in these guidelines?

What's your carbohydrate... Working on a paper.

When you address, was carbohydrate tolerance addressed in the guidelines?

No.

And where does the RDA come into all of this?

Well, there's the RDA, and then there's the dietary guidelines, and then there's

the reference intake.

So there's a lot of numbers that become confusing.

You're smiling at me.

How do you, you had mentioned earlier when we started this conversation that you are hoping that people choose, that here's the science, you now decide.

Where do you think the other institutions are going to come in?

So you've got the American Heart Association and you just have various other medical associations that have been in alignment with the old dietary guidelines.

You can find that in our Supercast version.

Just kidding.

I'm kidding.

Your work is really important and you've spent a lifetime working on this and now we're seeing it into practice.

And I will say what I've noticed is I expected you to be emotionally charged, very excited, but I kind of got that wrong.

And that's