Dr. Giulia Enders

You said like your stomach will look paler.

You know, I obviously most of us don't have a tube to look at a camera inside your stomach.

But you can actually see it.

And therefore, your advice was quite simple.

Have some downtime at lunch.

Have a proper break.

And that for you, just one minute of breathing slowly at lunchtime and 4 PM makes a big difference to reducing that stress.

Talked about sleep.

And I learned this amazing fact that deep sleep

in the first half of the night is when most of my immune cells are being made.

So it's really important.

But even a short nap can be good if I haven't had enough sleep.

And one of the key things that you do also is think about not eating too late, not being so excited at the end of the day that you can't sleep.

Diet, obviously, and I think that what you discuss is very much the sort of patterns that

that we talk about on this podcast a lot.

And then finally, we talked a lot about exercise.

And I think what's really interesting is it's not just all the health benefits we think about, but actually it's really going to help sort of balance your immune system and have it in better shape when it is needed.

and that you want to do both strength training, that's good for muscles.

You talked about the way in your muscles can be really important for immune system, which is amazing, but also aerobic, because that's not only good for your heart and your lungs, but actually it can also be lowering your anxiety, you know, as you get into it.

So there's this sort of all round somehow being more balanced as opposed to going and like finding a supplement that says it's going to boost your immune system because actually