Dr. Giulia Enders

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1,405 appearances 4 recordings 4 series first heard Apr 2026 last heard 26 Jun

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ZOE Science & Nutrition · How 'boosting' your immune system increases inflammation and 4 ways to support balance instead | Dr Giulia Enders · 7 May 2026 podcast

And partly it fits what's happening there, but for some other parts and actually quite large parts, it's not.

And we have known like for a few decades now that the immune system is also really trying to keep us safe through other routes than just war and fighting.

It is keeping us safe through, for example, cooperating with good microbes, which is a very important part because if they take up a lot of room, there's not so much room left for bad germs to land, you know.

It is saving a lot of energy by not initiating unnecessary inflammatory reactions by tolerating and just, you know, nurturing tolerance in order to have just microbes sitting there that don't do anything bad.

That they are okay.

Maybe sometimes they're a bit funky, but that's not a problem.

And all of this it can only do because it constantly asks us how we're doing, gets to know us all the time.

is curious and learning and builds a memory and, you know, has all these experiences.

And the immune system in our old age is educated and very different than one in the younger ages where it will just inflame and have a fever right away.

And then in an older age, it'll say, oh, I know this bug.

I don't even care to, you know, inflame anything or have a fever.

It's gone.

In your book, you use this term, the microbe cloak.

Can you explain what this microbe cloak is and what you mean by that?

Well, what is a cloak?

The fun thing is you can change a cloak, right?

You can take it off and then you can put another one on.

And if it's raining, you might want to use a waterproof one.

And if it's really light out, you might want to lose a very light, nice one or something, you know.

And this is the cool thing about bacteria and what actually our relationship with them is.

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