Dr. J. Budziszewski

Now, but capital, although the desire for wealth upon wealth upon wealth...

is a perversion.

It is nevertheless a perversion of something that is in itself good and natural.

We are bodies.

We are embodied souls.

We do need some material things.

It is not wrong to want to have a roof over our heads that doesn't leak, to have clothes that keep our children warm, and to have enough food to eat, and enough

Wealth, let us call it that, to be able to practice the normal everyday activities of our culture with our friends and our neighbors.

Now, the problem is that then we pervert that into wanting more and more and more.

So your motive for having, let's say factory workers who were programmed so that they would never go on strike is so that I'll make more money, which is a reversion of something natural.

But now you're devising the next generation.

Maybe you think it would be, it would also be good.

Maybe you're socialist programmers and you think we're going to breed the profit motive out of them.

Okay?

There has to be... Well, there's a sort of a... That's a perversion, too.

Compassion is something that is natural to us.

But there's right compassion and wrong compassion.

You know, you can pervert this into the idea it's evil for anybody to have more than anybody else and, you know, you shouldn't have to work for what you get and all that kind of thing.

But you always have to... There always has to be some... Your nature provides you with a set of possible motives, either intact or perverted.

It provides you with a set of possible motives...