Dr. J. Budziszewski

The controllers, the inventors, the innovators are working within that set.

The next generation of innovators is going to be working from a different set because you've changed it.

The one after that is going to be working from a different set.

Keep extrapolating that out.

What possible motive is even left all the way down the line?

Lewis says there is no possible motive left except acting on the felt impulse of the moment.

So the whole thing just collapses in incoherency.

Well, what do you mean by aid?

Do you mean, for example, oh, we are afraid of death and we would like to live, and so let's live forever.

Sure.

Let's think of all the human things that would be hurt by that.

Now, I do believe that if it hadn't been for human sin, I don't know what God's plans for us would have been exactly, but there's no particular reason.

But we wouldn't have died as we do now.

But I know, but I'm not talking about that.

Right.

So let's just do that.

But living forever in this life is, and even apart from the theological consideration, even apart from faith in the second coming,

Look, if you live forever, you're going to stop having children.

Yeah.

I try to imagine a world without the laughter of children in it.