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Dr. Jack Goldstone

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592 total appearances

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Ologies with Alie Ward
Revolutionology (REBELLIONS & SOCIAL CHANGE) with Jack Goldstone

It's a Hollywood theme, whether it's the uprisings of gladiators or the uprisings of slaves or historical documentaries about revolutions that need heroes and villains.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Revolutionology (REBELLIONS & SOCIAL CHANGE) with Jack Goldstone

Yes, we tend to think that a revolution is a good thing, and some of them have been.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Revolutionology (REBELLIONS & SOCIAL CHANGE) with Jack Goldstone

Certainly, we have democracy today because of revolutions against kings and emperors.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Revolutionology (REBELLIONS & SOCIAL CHANGE) with Jack Goldstone

But almost all revolutions have a dark side, if you will.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Revolutionology (REBELLIONS & SOCIAL CHANGE) with Jack Goldstone

That is, if it requires a lot of violence and a lot of creating harsh, oppressive, brutal governments to create a revolution and to hold it in place, that leads to tragedies.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Revolutionology (REBELLIONS & SOCIAL CHANGE) with Jack Goldstone

That leads to tens of millions of people being killed.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Revolutionology (REBELLIONS & SOCIAL CHANGE) with Jack Goldstone

And too many revolutions have leaned in that direction, leading to civil war, leading to authoritarian governments.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Revolutionology (REBELLIONS & SOCIAL CHANGE) with Jack Goldstone

Sure.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Revolutionology (REBELLIONS & SOCIAL CHANGE) with Jack Goldstone

And...

Ologies with Alie Ward
Revolutionology (REBELLIONS & SOCIAL CHANGE) with Jack Goldstone

The thing about revolutions is they're processes.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Revolutionology (REBELLIONS & SOCIAL CHANGE) with Jack Goldstone

They're not just an event.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Revolutionology (REBELLIONS & SOCIAL CHANGE) with Jack Goldstone

A revolution can unfold over years, sometimes even decades.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Revolutionology (REBELLIONS & SOCIAL CHANGE) with Jack Goldstone

That is, revolutions can trigger civil wars.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Revolutionology (REBELLIONS & SOCIAL CHANGE) with Jack Goldstone

Revolutions may start with uprisings, spill into civil war.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Revolutionology (REBELLIONS & SOCIAL CHANGE) with Jack Goldstone

Sometime during the revolution, there may be a military coup.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Revolutionology (REBELLIONS & SOCIAL CHANGE) with Jack Goldstone

It is hard to tell these different things apart.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Revolutionology (REBELLIONS & SOCIAL CHANGE) with Jack Goldstone

What I tell my students and what I would tell your listeners is if you have a sustained mass mobilization, that is someone kind of raising and organizing and pushing the people to change the government, and they make a major attempt to overthrow the government in order to change the way institutions are run.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Revolutionology (REBELLIONS & SOCIAL CHANGE) with Jack Goldstone

then that's a revolutionary episode.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Revolutionology (REBELLIONS & SOCIAL CHANGE) with Jack Goldstone

It may lead to a successful revolution.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Revolutionology (REBELLIONS & SOCIAL CHANGE) with Jack Goldstone

It may not.