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Ologies with Alie Ward

Revolutionology (REBELLIONS & SOCIAL CHANGE) with Jack Goldstone

24 Sep 2025

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0.031 - 20.082 Allie Ward

Oh, hi. It's that lady standing in the rain. Allie Ward, here's ologies, here's revolutions. Revolutionology, it is indeed a word. The word revolution itself dates back to hundreds of years coming from the orbit of the planets around the sun. So revolutions and wheels that spin and things coming back around again.

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20.062 - 41.277 Allie Ward

So let's talk about it with someone who is recognized globally as one of the leading experts in revolutions and social change. He did his undergrad, his master's and PhD at Harvard University. He's authored or edited over 20 books, including Revolutions, A Very Short Introduction, which has a revised second edition that we'll link in the show notes. He's published...

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41.257 - 63.139 Allie Ward

300 papers, including recent bangers like classical liberalism versus populism and authoritarianism, the struggle for modern democracy. And when it comes to asking someone more intelligent than you can fathom how governments rise and fall, he is the most solid choice. And if you are like Allison, you better not get any politics in my science program. I do think that you should leave.

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63.179 - 82.591 Allie Ward

It's going to get political. It'll get historical. There's a lot of weird shit going on, sonny boy. And I am a meerkat. I'm standing on a rock. I am barking until my throat bleeds for all of us to engage in some good old-fashioned pattern recognition. Also, if you want episodes without swear words, you can look for Smologies, S-M-O-L-O-G-I-E-S.

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82.711 - 92.041 Allie Ward

They are our spinoff, kid-safe show, wherever you get podcasts. Also, thank you to everyone who submits questions via patreon.com slash ologies and supports the show in that grassroots way.

92.341 - 107.258 Allie Ward

Thanks to everyone out there wearing ologies merch, and thanks to the folks who make their voices heard by leaving reviews, which help the show so much, like this one from Chel Harrell, who wrote, I always know where to turn when I need more info on delicious beaver scat, hippos, bad PR,

107.238 - 122.074 Allie Ward

medieval snail art, the terrifyingly tiny bone keeping our brains from leaking out of our noses, and literally everything in between. Shel Harrell, revolutions is one of those things. I hope you enjoy it. Also, thank you to sponsors of the show who make it possible to donate to a cause of each ologist's choosing.

122.965 - 140.62 Allie Ward

Okay, let's hear the whys of revolutions, the hows of revolutions, what revolts have been the gold standard, how that's changed over time, social media and social change, how protests are squashed before they really start, storming the Bastille, facing off tanks,

140.6 - 168.818 Allie Ward

the creep of regime change, the forces behind the scenes, what happens when you install the wrong new leader, the rhetoric that moves revolutions along, violent revolutions, nonviolent ones, which one is more effective, fascism, anti-fascism, anti-anti-fascism, folk songs, college kids, and so much more with scholar, author, professor, social change expert, and actual real-life revolutionologist, Dr. Jack Goldstone.

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