Dr. James Fitzsimmons

It's Lake Petén Itzá, right?

That kingdom doesn't fall until 1697.

In 1697, there were undergraduates at Harvard getting degrees.

So if you think about how much time it actually takes, it's quite a long period of time.

So the conquest is not something that's piecemeal.

It's not something that happens all at once, Death Star style.

It happens very, very, very slowly.

And one could argue that the conquest is still happening today.

That, you know, there are groups of Maya, for example, the Lacandonas, who were never formally conquered or, you know, territorially annexed or any of that sort.

They just kind of withdrew further and further and further into the forest.

And what the Spanish conquistadores didn't accomplish with arms, like tourism, is accomplishing today.

People are sort of like, you know, gradually like, you know, okay...

Indigenous languages are disappearing because people are like, it's not advantageous for me economically to learn this.

If I have to learn two languages, it's going to be Spanish and English.

And you see these indigenous languages just going.

So you could argue the conquest is still happening.

We just we just don't notice it.

But it is.

Yeah.

So Pizarro goes – I think he starts off in Panama.