Dr. James Fitzsimmons

instead of talking about Caesar all the time or Ramses, I'd just like somebody to know who this woman, Lady Sixguy, I'd like somebody to know who Lady Sixguy is.

Wouldn't that be nice?

And so I think it humanizes them.

And we don't talk enough to people.

And I think it's always bothered me that we don't engage with the general public.

Because the problem is that when you don't engage with the general public and you're an academic, the public will engage with you regardless.

And they'll find other people to sort of engage with the material.

So, you know...

the ancient aliens guy or like, um, the, you know, that sort of the, that stuff that you get on your feed, uh, late at night and things that pop up on your feed, like, Oh, like it's written, you know, popular, popular, popular writers writing these little blog posts and things.

It is awesome.

And we should be getting out there and being like, no, like, look at all this awesome stuff.

You should see this.

Yeah.

And instead we don't.

And I think that's a, that's a, that's a big problem for us.

Um, I think it's, it's something that, um,

You know, you find situations where people are, you have the public engaging or other people engaging with the material that are not academics, right?

And they might engage with it in ways that you don't like, but if you don't say anything and you don't do anything, like, what do you expect, right?

Yeah, of course.

So that's just something that I think it's always bothered me.