Dr. James Fitzsimmons

You actually are the maze god for all intents and purposes.

That's you.

Well, so there's all these images of these beings called Y beings, W-A-H-Y beings, right?

And these Y beings are personified diseases and all kinds of other ailments.

They're basically dark magics.

And there are things that these kings would use to sick on each other.

And sometimes they're carrying these bowls.

They'll carry, like, here's a bunch of eyes.

Here's a plate of eyes and things of that sort, right?

The reason I lost the fight is that I couldn't produce one that was like...

I couldn't produce one.

There aren't any.

There aren't any.

And so I don't know what you would need to actually prove that they're actually eating people.

It's the same thing for the Aztecs and such.

People talk about it.

And I think there's a little bit better evidence for the Aztecs than there is for the Maya on this.

But again, most of it is Spanish chroniclers.

Most of it is people that are post-conquest talking about this stuff.

There isn't like a passage that says like, I ate this person, right?