Dr. James Hollis

That's the distinction.

That's why of those various sources of insight that we can have into our lives, you have to ask about what is most meaningful to me.

As defined by the psyche, not by the culture around you.

Because what the culture says, it's all about being successful.

It's all about making money.

It's about living in this neighborhood.

It's about buying that object.

And if that worked, we would know it.

It obviously doesn't.

So that's what brings us back to that humbling moment that maybe I'm not living my life.

Sirin Kierkegaard, the Danish theologian in Copenhagen in the 19th century, talked about a man who was shocked to find his name in the obituary column, and he hadn't realized he'd died because he hadn't realized that he was here in the first place.

Now, this is a Kierkegaard talking in the middle of the 19th century.

Think about the ramping up of the stimuli around us, the steady drum.

Among young people, you take away their cell phone and they experience enormous anxiety because this is their link to the world, and yet it's constantly making demands upon them.

So again, underneath all of this is we have an appointment with our own souls.

And the question is, are you going to show up for the appointment?

And I thought I had, but my psyche thought otherwise.

So it was in the midst of a serious depression that I began showing up.

And it was a difficult process, but ultimately proved to be, I think, transformative.

And may I just add another piece?