Dr. James Hollis

And for some people, it'll be working in nature.

For others, it'll be working with their hands.

For others, it'll be through some creative enterprise or working with their dreams or meditating or whatever.

I would say whatever helps you step out of the stimulus response, stimulus response melee that we call our daily life.

is likely to be helpful to you, either because you rest and you restore the psyche and or you have some reflection upon it.

You recollect yourself as it is, right?

You remember the self because we get unraveled.

I often have the feeling of getting unraveled in life where, you know, this calls you and this calls you and this calls you and that calls you.

And it's just pulling you away from some center here.

And again, this is not about self-absorption.

But if I'm not in connection with something abiding here, my behaviors or choices there are not going to be very helpful in the long run, you see.

They're going to be merely responsive to the demands of the environmental circumstances.

That's right.

Well, see, I think that's a good example, though, as you said, of exiting the stimulus response cycle.

Because in that moment, something in your psyche rises to express itself through you.

And, you know, it's your drawing.

We could perhaps read that drawing and perhaps interpret something of it.

You know, like the famous Rorschach, for example.

I mean, Rorschach's an inkblot.

When's an inkblot not an inkblot?