Dr. James Hollis

And as such, something else causes him to pay greatly for that.

That's right.

which is something I'm finding with a lot of the men that I see.

I happen to see right now in my practice several men between 60 and 80, and one's 82.

And, of course, they've been conditioned to work.

And then suddenly, you know, on Monday morning, you don't have to stop and think who you are.

You get up and you go to work and you do what you've done all these years.

And then suddenly you don't do that.

What are you going to do?

Well, you say, well, I'm going to go play golf every day.

Well, okay, go do that.

But typically, within three or four months, the depression comes.

And they'll think about, well, I need to get back into doing this or get doing that, you see.

So often we find people defined by exactly that kind of mentality.

I've finished the first lap, so what do I do?

Run another lap and run another lap.

And you realize you keep coming back to the same starting point.

That's why I say it's not what you do, it's what it's in service to inside that makes a difference.

So is that person being successful by external standards?

Yes, whatever that means.