Dr. James Hollis

If you're sacrificing on behalf of a value that is right for you and for your project together,

then you're both served by that.

On the other hand, you don't sacrifice the journey of the individual spirit too.

And again, it's about balancing that as best one can.

And there's very little in our culture that rewards that.

But then the price is, again, the symptomatology that comes to the surface.

And from a psychodynamic standpoint, we don't say, well, how quickly you'll get rid of the symptoms.

We say, why if they come?

What are they asking of me?

That's why, as I said, my first question in therapy was how quickly did I get rid of this depression, get back on the road, you know, the careerism road, right?

And I came in time to realize it was my psyche saying, you're on the wrong path, fella.

You don't know.

It's not so much that it's wrong.

It's just not right for you.

There is a big difference here.

And you're going to have to find a different kind of conversation in your life and so forth.

And during my training, I was obliged to do my clinical experience.

I was working in a psychiatric hospital in New Jersey.

And sometimes I was shuttling back and forth the same day between the psychiatric hospital, a locked ward, and the university campus.

And I came to realize the conversation in the hospital was more real somehow.