Dr. Janice Stein

There would be a lot of reluctant staff, a German chancellor, any German chancellor.

So that knocks out the Europeans.

So we can only go two places, right, with this list because it's clearly not the Australian prime minister, you know, and it's not the prime minister of Japan.

So, you know, it could be.

Prime Minister Carney, who got the attention.

Really?

No, no, it could be.

And the reason we can't, it won't be.

He clearly, again, that speech in Davos is still...

rippling through the conversation they feel that he was the first one to say there's a rupture he called it out um and there's a lot of admiration and respect for him for that it wasn't so much of his prescriptions about what to do but he called it out but frankly we can't be because

If we think that the British cut back on military preparedness, we are the laggard of the group.

And we have a long way to go and a tough road, given the order of magnitude spend that we're going to have to spend, Peter, to become credible in any way.

And we live next door to the United States.

So it's not us.

So we only have two places to go here.

The free world leader list?

And way too many years.

And, you know, that's why I know we're going to come to this later, but that's what would happen in Hungary.

We'll be so encouraging to so many Europeans.

Because this is, that was, we'll come to that, but that was the first defeat of a serious right wing.