Dr. Janice Stein

ultra-right-wing politician.

So waiting may not be that bad a strategy.

But that's exactly what, just for the record, that's what Prime Minister Carney told us not to do.

No wishful thinking, no waiting around, no fairy tales about believing that we're going back, that we can restore things.

That is, and I agree with him, that world is not coming back.

It's a huge story.

And if you hear some relief in my voice and a tinge of celebration, it's there.

It's a huge, huge story.

You know, Victor Orbán,

fashioned the right-wing populist movement with its really dark tones of anti-immigrant feeling that swept through Europe.

You know, I don't want to put a label on it, but frankly, it has its really ugly qualities to it.

And he was the one who gave the first voice to that.

And there are such movements all over Europe today.

He provided, literally, he provided...

scholarships, fellowships, training institutes for the populist rights all over Europe.

Hungary was the epicenter for this.

I think Canadians probably first connected to that story when Michael Ignacev, who was the chancellor of the Central European University, when he forced it out because it was too liberal.

She's taken over, Victor Orban has taken over control of the whole public education system.

as well as the universities, dictates the curriculum.

This goes, this is not right-wing in the way we in Canada would use that word.