Dr. Janice Stein

And this is a part of the world, Peter, Germany, Poland, Germany.

Ukraine after after World War One, because Ukraine was part of Russia before that.

This is where the bloodiest fighting in Europe has always taken place.

These are the, you know, the border.

Timothy's not a book called Borderlands.

And it was a great title because that's exactly what it is, where borders shifted, where the worst massacres took place.

where the worst violence took place.

So anybody with a sense of history has to think, what are we building here?

It for sure does.

You know, it's really astonishing, Peter, whether it's Europe...

whether it's the Gulf, wherever you go, Mark Carney is a rock star, frankly.

It's not Canada so much that's a rock star.

It is Mark Carney who's a rock star.

You know, they knew about him before because he was governor of the Bank of Canada, but even more so governor of the Bank of England.

And during the great financial crisis, played such an outsized role in stabilizing and building, you know, the instruments that stabilize global markets.

But that speech of Davos...

It was one of those rare speeches where it captured the mood and the anxieties of people.

And so they want him to come.

It's not so much that they're saying, well, Canada, how many troops are you going to put on the ground?

How much are you going to increase your ground forces?