Dr. Janice Stein

The Russians have innovated, as I said, far more quickly than I thought.

We're seeing something happen.

And this matters to Canada, okay?

It may sound remote, but let me tell you why it matters to Canada.

How are the Ukrainians doing this?

So the manufacturers, whoever is making the robots and the drones, goes to the front line.

They're just behind the soldiers who are flying these drones at a distance.

They fly the drones and the soldiers turn around and say, hey, this worked, but this didn't work.

These guys telegraph back or go back and sometimes the next morning and at the most 48 hours later, they fix the problem.

And the next generation of equipment, the next iteration of equipment gets to the battlefield.

So they are innovating in real time.

There's this constant cycle.

And why are they able to do it?

Because they're getting almost real-time feedback from the people who are using the equipment.

Why do I say this matters to Canada?

And I think it does hugely.

And I'm a minority in this argument.

But I think it does hugely because we are about to spend $100 to $150 billion a year on re-arming.

The Prime Minister is really clear about that.

And if we miss that story, if we have to connect the people who make the stuff to the people who use the stuff, shorten that distance, get the feed, let the users, whether it's, you know, submariners or people on the ground who are using, get that feedback fast and then just iterate one little bit, get that one change made so it works better.