Dr. Janice Stein

We are not.

We are going to miss the mark in this.

That's what the Russia-Ukraine war is showing.

That's what happened in the Gulf.

They, you know, why is Zelensky, which he is, the most sought after leader in the Gulf right now?

Because in Saudi Arabia and the Emirates and Qatar, when they were the victims of the drone attacks by the Iranians and they exhausted their very expensive missile interceptors very quickly,

Who did they call?

As the saying goes, they called Zelensky because they had innovated drone interceptors.

And instead of costing a million dollars or more, it cost $35,000 or $50,000.

That's the future battlefield, don't you think?

So Russia's advantage, that big mass, which it always had, it could absorb pain.

Germany got as close as anybody ever got.

That's right.

But that matters less when the Ukrainians can do what they're doing.

Well, there's certainly worry.

There's two things, right?

There's worry.

But that worry is mitigated just a little bit because the price of oil is going up.

They'll make a lot more money.

So there's a sense, you know, double down, hang on, the money is going to flow into the treasury.