Dr. Janice Stein

In addition, Trump once or twice has publicly said enough so that anybody in the know can figure out who the source of the information was.

That is a crime among this group of people, frankly, when you betray a source.

You know, it's like you betraying a source or just closing a source that you promised you would keep off the record.

It just violates the most fundamental code of honor.

So my sense is...

Everybody is very cautious about what they share.

They're very careful.

Certainly, if any one of the four got information that there was any kind of plot against the United States in any way, they would share it immediately.

But there is an additional screen on the information that's being shared.

And I suspect at times that some of the information that they're most worried about in terms of protecting their sources might go from a farmer to a farmer.

They did.

Well, we know they did.

Yeah.

I mean, that's what's amazing.

We know they did.

Assuming this is advanced leak.

Okay.

And assuming therefore that there are other versions of this story that will come out.

But from what we know,

Ratcliffe, the director of intelligence, the CIA director, told Trump that the expectation that the regime would collapse was farcical, absolutely farcical.