Dr. Jay Bhattacharya

Vince, actually, the gain of function ban the president signed is expansive. It's actually everything I wanted. It essentially directs the U.S. government as well to not support this kind of dangerous research internally and externally. It mentions specifically some adversary nations.

Vince, actually, the gain of function ban the president signed is expansive. It's actually everything I wanted. It essentially directs the U.S. government as well to not support this kind of dangerous research internally and externally. It mentions specifically some adversary nations.

Vince, actually, the gain of function ban the president signed is expansive. It's actually everything I wanted. It essentially directs the U.S. government as well to not support this kind of dangerous research internally and externally. It mentions specifically some adversary nations.

I mean, it's amazing to me that we cooperate with the Chinese on this kind of research in the past because that's especially dangerous. But, you know, part of the reasoning why was that the biosafety standards were more lax in Wuhan than they were here.

I mean, it's amazing to me that we cooperate with the Chinese on this kind of research in the past because that's especially dangerous. But, you know, part of the reasoning why was that the biosafety standards were more lax in Wuhan than they were here.

I mean, it's amazing to me that we cooperate with the Chinese on this kind of research in the past because that's especially dangerous. But, you know, part of the reasoning why was that the biosafety standards were more lax in Wuhan than they were here.

And so we, some researchers, I keep saying we when it wasn't me, some researchers engaged in offshoring this kind of dangerous work because they knew it would be more difficult to do here. But it is also still done here, Vince. And I think it's dangerous no matter where it happens. And the president's order essentially says no more of it. It's a little tricky because gain of function –

And so we, some researchers, I keep saying we when it wasn't me, some researchers engaged in offshoring this kind of dangerous work because they knew it would be more difficult to do here. But it is also still done here, Vince. And I think it's dangerous no matter where it happens. And the president's order essentially says no more of it. It's a little tricky because gain of function –

And so we, some researchers, I keep saying we when it wasn't me, some researchers engaged in offshoring this kind of dangerous work because they knew it would be more difficult to do here. But it is also still done here, Vince. And I think it's dangerous no matter where it happens. And the president's order essentially says no more of it. It's a little tricky because gain of function –

as a tool is actually useful biologically for human health. So for instance, human insulin is produced at scale using a kind of gain of function work. You take E. coli and trick them into making human insulin. The problem is gain of function work that has the possibility of causing a pandemic. That's the work we should not be doing, no matter what it is, no matter where it is.

as a tool is actually useful biologically for human health. So for instance, human insulin is produced at scale using a kind of gain of function work. You take E. coli and trick them into making human insulin. The problem is gain of function work that has the possibility of causing a pandemic. That's the work we should not be doing, no matter what it is, no matter where it is.

as a tool is actually useful biologically for human health. So for instance, human insulin is produced at scale using a kind of gain of function work. You take E. coli and trick them into making human insulin. The problem is gain of function work that has the possibility of causing a pandemic. That's the work we should not be doing, no matter what it is, no matter where it is.

And I saw Secretary Kennedy say this, and I completely agree. We should be promoting an international treaty to get rid of this work. It helps nobody. It won't help us win battles with our adversaries. It just endangers human populations.

And I saw Secretary Kennedy say this, and I completely agree. We should be promoting an international treaty to get rid of this work. It helps nobody. It won't help us win battles with our adversaries. It just endangers human populations.

And I saw Secretary Kennedy say this, and I completely agree. We should be promoting an international treaty to get rid of this work. It helps nobody. It won't help us win battles with our adversaries. It just endangers human populations.

I mean, Vince, you're the soul of common sense on this. It's amazing that scientists have made decisions that don't have that kind of common sense. We should be focused on things that improve human health. That's our mission. Why are we focused on utopian schemes that have never been proven to advance human health and that have the risk of causing worldwide pandemics?

I mean, Vince, you're the soul of common sense on this. It's amazing that scientists have made decisions that don't have that kind of common sense. We should be focused on things that improve human health. That's our mission. Why are we focused on utopian schemes that have never been proven to advance human health and that have the risk of causing worldwide pandemics?

I mean, Vince, you're the soul of common sense on this. It's amazing that scientists have made decisions that don't have that kind of common sense. We should be focused on things that improve human health. That's our mission. Why are we focused on utopian schemes that have never been proven to advance human health and that have the risk of causing worldwide pandemics?

I've not been made aware of any NIH connection to those labs. I have read reports about them from the outsides. But if I learn of things, I'll let the public know. I mean, I've been uncovering things left and right. And some of us have been shocking. We'll talk about one thing, I'm sure, right? And so you're about to ask me, I hope, in a second about it.

I've not been made aware of any NIH connection to those labs. I have read reports about them from the outsides. But if I learn of things, I'll let the public know. I mean, I've been uncovering things left and right. And some of us have been shocking. We'll talk about one thing, I'm sure, right? And so you're about to ask me, I hope, in a second about it.