Dr. Jay Bhattacharya

um there's a lot of people that are really you know they're they're uh they're they're sitting they're concerned because they might lose their jobs and all this um and i have sympathy for them too um but the place needs change and and i think uh It's been interesting. I've been here six weeks, and we've accomplished a lot. I've uncovered some things which I wish had never happened but did.

And we managed to make a lot. I'll tell you specifically about an incident at a high-security lab that I found as we went on the conversation. But it's been eye-opening, and it's been really useful to learn so many things. It's still a great institution, but it definitely needs some changes, and I'm working on that.

And we managed to make a lot. I'll tell you specifically about an incident at a high-security lab that I found as we went on the conversation. But it's been eye-opening, and it's been really useful to learn so many things. It's still a great institution, but it definitely needs some changes, and I'm working on that.

And we managed to make a lot. I'll tell you specifically about an incident at a high-security lab that I found as we went on the conversation. But it's been eye-opening, and it's been really useful to learn so many things. It's still a great institution, but it definitely needs some changes, and I'm working on that.

I think the NIH should be an entirely civilian organization. It should not be involved in any military kind of research at all. I think that there are other parts of the government that do that and do that better than us.

I think the NIH should be an entirely civilian organization. It should not be involved in any military kind of research at all. I think that there are other parts of the government that do that and do that better than us.

I think the NIH should be an entirely civilian organization. It should not be involved in any military kind of research at all. I think that there are other parts of the government that do that and do that better than us.

The mixing of missions actually poisons the NIH's primary objective, which is to do research that improves the health and well-being of the American people, the longevity of the American people. On the question of this gain-of-function research, it's funny, Vince, because the same research, it was pitched as biodefense can also be used as, bio offense.

The mixing of missions actually poisons the NIH's primary objective, which is to do research that improves the health and well-being of the American people, the longevity of the American people. On the question of this gain-of-function research, it's funny, Vince, because the same research, it was pitched as biodefense can also be used as, bio offense.

The mixing of missions actually poisons the NIH's primary objective, which is to do research that improves the health and well-being of the American people, the longevity of the American people. On the question of this gain-of-function research, it's funny, Vince, because the same research, it was pitched as biodefense can also be used as, bio offense.

It's the same research, the same exact research. And in fact, the civilian justification given to the research agenda that I think led to the pandemic was to prevent pandemics, to go out into the wild places, find all of the viruses and pathogens that live in places where humans generally don't go, bring them into labs and catalog them and ask how close are they in evolutionary space?

It's the same research, the same exact research. And in fact, the civilian justification given to the research agenda that I think led to the pandemic was to prevent pandemics, to go out into the wild places, find all of the viruses and pathogens that live in places where humans generally don't go, bring them into labs and catalog them and ask how close are they in evolutionary space?

It's the same research, the same exact research. And in fact, the civilian justification given to the research agenda that I think led to the pandemic was to prevent pandemics, to go out into the wild places, find all of the viruses and pathogens that live in places where humans generally don't go, bring them into labs and catalog them and ask how close are they in evolutionary space?

So they'll make the leap into human populations. And to do that, you have to essentially weaponize them, right? Make them more infectious in humans and ask how many mutations are needed before they become infectious in humans. You know, it's one of those things where it's a utopian agenda. It was sold as, well, we can prepare for all possible pandemics.

So they'll make the leap into human populations. And to do that, you have to essentially weaponize them, right? Make them more infectious in humans and ask how many mutations are needed before they become infectious in humans. You know, it's one of those things where it's a utopian agenda. It was sold as, well, we can prepare for all possible pandemics.

So they'll make the leap into human populations. And to do that, you have to essentially weaponize them, right? Make them more infectious in humans and ask how many mutations are needed before they become infectious in humans. You know, it's one of those things where it's a utopian agenda. It was sold as, well, we can prepare for all possible pandemics.

And so any possible pandemic in the future we'll know about before it happens, have countermeasures in place like vaccines and antivirals. That utopian agenda, I think, actually caused the pandemic because it's not possible to handle those agents so carefully that they never leak. It doesn't have to be malicious. It's just... human error.

And so any possible pandemic in the future we'll know about before it happens, have countermeasures in place like vaccines and antivirals. That utopian agenda, I think, actually caused the pandemic because it's not possible to handle those agents so carefully that they never leak. It doesn't have to be malicious. It's just... human error.

And so any possible pandemic in the future we'll know about before it happens, have countermeasures in place like vaccines and antivirals. That utopian agenda, I think, actually caused the pandemic because it's not possible to handle those agents so carefully that they never leak. It doesn't have to be malicious. It's just... human error.

And I don't know exactly what happened in Wuhan because the Chinese won't share their lab notebooks with us. But what I will say is that we should not be engaged in any of these kinds of utopian exercises that pose a risk to human health at the scale that we saw during the pandemic. It's just a catastrophic mistake that we ever engaged in this.