Dr. Jay Wiles

And we haven't gotten to the good meat of it.

So exposure to all these things.

So he comes into clinic and he says, uh, you know, I've noticed that like every single time, like I go out to drive, like I lock up the entire body locks up.

I can't think straight.

I get tunnel vision.

Like all of these things are occurring kind of within my nervous system.

And he didn't coin it that way because he didn't know to use the language nervous system.

But he said everything just feels really disruptive.

And it's gotten to the point now where like I actually have a phobia of getting in the car and driving anywhere.

Like I just I can't do it.

So that's caused me to be socially isolative.

I'm a hermit.

I just kind of live by myself, do my own thing.

The only time I come here is when I get a taxi because Uber wasn't a thing back then.

Am I aging myself here?

And he would go to the VA to receive help.

Okay, so then when we started to unpack and explore like what was going on here, basically what he would say is that he would walk out and he would have, he would just, he wouldn't even actually like be looking at a car, but he would know that he was kind of like moving towards a car.

And all of a sudden his physiology would just ramp up.

Heart rate would increase.

Everything would just kind of like become immensely excitable.